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30 May 2016
The first 15-aside All Blacks squad of 2016 has been released by the NZRU. Ardie Savea is one of 6 confirmed new caps. Which means he’s also now a member of another ‘exclusive’ New Zealand rugby club; those who were picked first by Gordon Tietjens as New Zealand sevens reps. That list is now climbing fast towards 50 players.
Below is my up-date list of ‘Titch’ All Blacks – or rather – the list of ‘he saw them first All Blacks!’
These days life is all about FAQ's; so to clear the air for those people who have often asked me just 'how many 15s All Blacks have first come through the Gordon Tietjens New Zealands sevens coaching teams?' here is the full and definitive list.
Note; While it is true Gordon has been coaching the New Zealand sevens team since 1994 his first involvement with a national sevens selection actually came a year earlier in 1993 with a New Zealand ‘B’ sevens team.
[In the lists which follow an * asterisk means a player had been a 15s All Black before being selected by Gordon Tietjens in an All Black sevens rugby team. (which means prominent sevens players like Eric Rush and Dallas Seymour CANNOT count in a Tietjens' sevens 'list' but others like Todd Blackadder, Jonah Lomu and Christian Cullen do]
1993
(GT took NZ7s 'B' team to Fiji) with Eroni Clarke* and Todd Blackadder
1994
(NZ team to Fiji and Hong Kong) with Eric Rush*, Graeme Bachop*, Jonah Lomu and Dallas Seymour*.
1995
(NZ team to Uruguay, Argentina, Fiji, Hong Kong and Japan) with Andrew Blowers, Adrian Cashmore, Christian Cullen, Roger Randle and Joeli Vidiri.
1996
(NZ team to Uruguay, Fiji, Hong Kong, Japan and World Cup qualifying in Portugal) with Glen Osborne* and Caleb Ralph.
1997
(NZ team to Fiji, the 2nd Rugby World Cup in Hong Kong and Japan) with Norm Berryman, Rhys Duggan and Alama Ieremia*
1998
(NZ team to Hong Kong, Japan, Jerusalem and 1st Commonwealth Games in Kuala Lumpur) with Troy Flavell, Rico Gear and Bruce Reihana)
1999/00
(NZ team to IRB World Series I (8 events) and the Sydney Sevens) with Mils Muliaina, Craig Newby, and Paul Steinmetz
2000/01
(NZ team to IRB World Series II (10 events) with Rodney So'oialo and with NZ team to the 3rd Rugby World Cup in Mar del Plata.)
2001/02 (NZ team to IRB World Series III (9 events) with Chris Masoe and Kevin Senio.
2002/03
(NZ team to IRB World Series IV (12 events) and the 2nd Commonwealth Games in Manchester) with Nick Evans, Joe Rokocoko and Anthony Tuitavake
2003/04
(NZ team to IRB World Series V (7 events) with Liam Messam, Hosea Gear and Scott Waldrom
2004/05
(NZ team to IRB World Series VI (8 events) with Sosene Anesi, Tanerau Latimer and Ma'a Nonu*.
2005/06
(NZ team to IRB World Series VII (8 events) and the 4th Rugby World Cup in Hong Kong) with Rudi Wulf, Jerome Kaino*, Mark Ranby* Tamati Ellison and Isaia Toeava.
2006/07
(NZ team to IRB World Series VIII (8 events) and the 3rd Commonwealth Games in Melbourne.) with Cory Jane.
2007/08
(NZ team to IRB World Series IX (8 events) with Jarrad Hoeata, Adam Thomson, Rene Ranger and Ben Atiga*
2008/09
(NZ team to IRB World Series X (8 events) with Israel Dagg and Victor Vito .
2009/10
(NZ team to IRB World Series XI (8 events) and the 5th Rugby World Cup in Dubai) with Julian Savea.
2010/11
(NZ team to IRB World Series XII (8 events) and the 4th Commonwealth Games in Delhi) with Beauden Barrett, Zac Guildford* and Ben Smith*
2011/12
(NZ team to IRB World Series XIII (8 events) with Frank Halai
2012/13
(NZ team to IRB World Series XIV (9 events) and 6th Rugby World Cup in Moscow) with Charles Piutau, Waisake Naholo and Ardie Savea
2013/14
(NZ team to IRB World Series XV (9 events) and to 5th Commonwealth Games, Glasgow). No 15s All Blacks from the sevens teams of that year.
2014/15
(NZ team to World Rugby (formerly IRB) World Series XVI) No All Blacks 15s players from the sevens teams of that year.
2015/16
(NZ team to World Rugby World Series XVII. Augustine Pulu* added.
SUMMARY
TOTAL; Tietjens 7s selections who became 15s ALL BLACKS after being first picked by GT; 42
(plus 13 who he later included in his 7s teams after being chosen first by other selectors as 15s All Blacks)
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OLYMPIC GAMES RUGBY
The advent of the Rugby World Cup in 1987 seemed to silence the calls which had surfaced from time to time for the return of rugby union for the fifth time to the programme at the modern Olympic Games.
Three countries took part in the rugby competition at the Paris Games in 1900, France beating Germany, 27–17, in one match and Britain, 27–8, in the other. Most of the British team came from the Moseley club. Its loss to France may seem a surprising result, given the modest standard of French rugby at that time, but the British players had spent 24 hours traveling from London before match day and were reportedly exhausted. France was awarded the gold medal, Germany the silver and Great Britain the bronze.
At the fourth Olympic Games in 1908 in London, only two nations took part: Australia, which was touring Britain at the time, and Britain itself. The English county champion side of that season, Cornwall, was chosen to represent Britain. Australia won 32–3 at White City Stadium in London.
At Antwerp in 1920, at the first Games after World War I, the underdogs, the United States, won the gold medal, beating France in the final by 8–0. The French team had been the favourite to win, as five of the team had recently appeared in the Five Nations championship.
In both 1908 and 1920 only two teams had entered the games, but in 1924 in Paris a proper, if small, tournament took place. Most publications claim that France beat Romania 61–3 (although the French records say 59–3). The United States also beat Romania, by 37–0. In the final the United States met France.
The game was a classic, which the Americans won, 17–3. More than 30,000 French spectators watched in alarm as their team suffered such a humiliation at the hands of the Americans (many of whom had never played rugby before). As the end grew nearer and the result was inevitable, the Americans were jeered by the crowd and one visiting supporter was knocked out after being hit in the face with a walking stick. At the medal ceremony, the playing of the United States’ national anthem was drowned out by the booing and cat-calling of the crowd. Police protection was needed for the departure of the American team from the Stade Colombes.
Before the 1928 Games there was a vote by members of the International Olympic Committee over whether rugby should be included at Amsterdam. IOC members were inclined towards individual events rather than team sports, and there was also a demand for a greater opportunity for women to take part. There was a theory, too, that the British rugby-playing countries did not strongly endorse the sport’s continuation at the Games. One of rugby's greatest supporters on the IOC, Baron Pierre de Coubertin of France, had retired in 1925.
The vote was lost, and rugby never regained an official place at the Olympics. In the 1936 Summer Olympic games in Berlin, the so-called 'Hitler Games' rugby was included again, but as a 'Demonstration' sport. Four countries took part; Germany, Italy, France and Romania. France beat Romania 19-14 in the final.
In the years ahead a number of countries expressed support for the 15-aside version of rugby to return to the Olympic programme. There were especially strong attempts in 1980 (endorsed by the Soviet Union) and in 1988 (endorsed by South Korea) to have rugby re-admitted to the Games programme. Both attempts failed.
A significant moment for rugby next came in 1994 when the IRB was endorsed into the Olympic movement as a full sporting member.
In 2002 the International Rugby Board, encouraged perhaps by the presence of an ex-Belgian rugby international, Jacques Rogge, as the new IOC President, rugby tried again but this time with the idea of sevens rugby being included for the Beijing Summer Games of 2008.
This again failed, it was said that one factor being that women's teams were not included in the IRB planning. By 2009 with a World Cup for women having been (hurredly) put in place the passage for sevens to be included in the Rio de Janeiro Games of 2016 was made easier.
This happened in October 2009 in Copenhagen when the full IOC Congress endorsed the sevens version for both men and women. In fact the first appearance of sevens rugby will be at the Summer Youth Olympic Games in Nanjing, China in August, 2014.
[Additional note; There is one player in Olympic rugby history who deserves special mention. He is Daniel Carroll, the speedy wing from Sydney, Australia, who was a gold medalist with the Australian team at London in 1908, and later settled in America. He played for the United States in the Olympics of 1920 and won a rugby gold medal for that country, becoming the first and only player to win two Olympic rugby gold medals. He was also coach of the 1924 United States team.]
Why was the France v Ireland match of 1913 played in the morning in Cork?
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