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Graham McNally, always working for rugby, especially in Dubai. And a great friend and judge of New Zealand rugby too.
4 June 2015
There we were the other day; two blokes sitting at home on a rainy afternoon in Wellington. We had nothing to do except pass the time of day away. The wives were out shopping and like the diligent husbands we are we were waiting at home for them. It was too early for a beer, there was tea in the pot and a new cake on the plate. But when we started talking about the composition of the 2015 All Blacks World Cup team the cake got ignored and the tea went cold.
Obviously one of the two blokes was myself; not quite a self-claiming world authority on the game but not far off - depending on how I feel on some days! The other man was my good friend and a great friend of the All Blacks - Graham McNally of Dubai.
Let me introduce you to Graham. He works for Emirates Airlines and it's funny but he turns up all over the world at significant rugby matches - and rarely misses an All Black test match wherever it is played. What a job he has! He drifts in and out all over the planet to the point where some of us light-heartedly call him 'Fog.' (Geddit?)
Graham's a good bloke and we've been cobbers since I started going up to the Dubai Sevens in 1999. He has only one mark against his name and that is that if in doubt he always plugs for the Canterbury player first. Just joking...
Make no mistake though this bloke knows the game; he can weigh up each player of recent years against all others because, well, he has seen them ALL in action in ALL their test outings. Most importantly via his red-and-black thinking he reckons he has a good knowledge of the conservative and loyal way Steve Hansen will go with his picks this year.
So Fog and The Prince (self-claimed!!) decided while waiting for the gals, based on the form of last year and the Super 15 form we've seen this year, to have a crack at picking the best 31 players Steve Hansen will pick to take to the Rugby World Cup this year. (Each team is allowed 31)
We two blokes came at our views from two different leanings; I think I am still some kind of professional observer from the media boxes while Graham has a closeness of contact with the current players via seeing them close-up and knowing many of them quite well.
So here is what we came up with; To misquote slightly old Sam Malone from behind the bar of 'Cheers' '- It's only two men's opinions.' See what you think...
Fullback; Ben Smith with Charles Piutau (if he can be pulled out of his contract difficulties in France)
Wings; Julian Savea and Waisake Naholo (That's only two you say - but though Piutau could play there, read on below.) (Naholo turns out to be onlu 'uncapped' player, although I recall how brilliant he was at the Rugby World Cup Sevens in Moscow in 2013)
Centre; Conrad Smith and Melakai Fekitoa
Midfield; Ma'a Nonu and Sonnybill Williams
First-five; Daniel Carter, Colin Slade and Beauden Barrett (Now this was the interesting bit. My mate with the read and black occluded vision reckons that the late run at this position by Daniel Carter will mean Hansen WILL take him. Loyalty and all that. Colin Slade will also be there as he offers back-up all over the back line. And there there's Beauden Barrett, who while being an outstanding no.10, might also find himself getting time ON THE WING this year to allow Carter to start in the games and build into form. That means there might be no place in the World Cup team for such excellent outer backs as Israel Dagg, Cory Jane, Ryan Crotty or Piutau (if the contract thing is too tough) And even Aaron Cruden wouldn't make it should he recover in time from injury.)
Halfbacks; Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara and Andy Ellis. (The last-named is running hotter this year I believe than Augustine Pulu. But there is a lot of earnest debate about Ellis we hear. As for Brad Webber, promising though he is, he will not crack it in Hansen's thinking - this year at least)
[So those are our backs - I pushed hard for Nehe Milner-Skudder to be included, under the heading of 'there ought to be at least one player in the backs the world hasn't seen before'...but in the end we have gone with the conservative approach of what we believe Steve Hansen and the other selectors will do.]
Many of the forwards pick themselves;
Number eight; Kieran Read
Flankers; Richie McCaw, Sam Cane, Jerome Kaino and Liam Messam (just ahead of Victor Vito)
Locks; Brodie Retallick, Same Whitelock, Luke Romano and Jeremy Thrush. (No Pat Tuipolotu - we already know he is out for the year)
Props; Owen and Ben Franks, Wyatt Crockett, Tony Woodcock and Charles Faumuina.
Hookers; Dane Coles, Keven Mealamu and Hika Elliot.
IN SUMMARY: We reckon these are about our best 31 players of the moment. I myself, say that the team has too many players in it's ranks who are past their best years, or who are knocked about from the collision game rugby has become. But we have a coach who will not go very far outside those he knows - plus they are on his books too - remember that.
Will this team win the Rugby World Cup? From this distance I am inclined to say 'no' at first instinct - I feel that South Africa and England will be more favoured and with more blood coursing through their younger and home-influenced players.
We simply have a lot of questions about our squad and its ability to stay the course. However I say that knowing that this current New Zealand squad certainly knows how to win games - they have shown that in abundance in recent years (12 wins from 14 games last year).
As for 'Fog?' - what did he think? Well, sitting there with his tea cup balanced on his knee, I didn't directly ask him the above question but I suspect he hopes that his man Richie (he's a red-and-blacker you know) will be the one holding the Webb Ellis trophy highest on finals day.
UNLUCKY TO MISS OUT: We made a list of these as well. I also think that from the above 'chosen 31' there will be at least three serious injuries which will mean they will NOT travel to the Cup. So keep the following list in mind too; (And remember the Stephen Donald story). We think the aforementioned Dagg, Jane, Milner-Skudder, Pulu and Webber will miss out, but go close. Plus Pat Osborne, Ryan Crotty, Robbie Fruean, Lima Sopoaga, Matt Todd, Victor Vito, Brad Shields, Blade Thomson, James Broadhurst, Dominic Bird, Joe Moody, James Parsons, Jeff Toomaga-Allen and Uncle Tom Cobbley. But we'll see.
Meantime, the ladies have returned with bulging shopping parcels (dammit - we two men are now poorer) ... and McNally and I have therefore to come out of our dream world and come back to reality.
'Yes dear, I'll boil the jug again...'
It was a fun exercise.
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Let me know what you think of this team...at quinnk1946@hotmail.com
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With Cavaliers players banned a very young NZ team, under their captain David Kirk, and with 11 new test players, beat France 18-9 in Christchurch.
PIENAAR, FRANCOIS
Transvaal and South Africa
29 internationals for South Africa 1993-96
The Springbok flanker who had a relatively short time at the top in test rugby, but who played a huge role in the game in a number of ways. Francois Pienaar is remembered best for receiving the 1995 Rugby World Cup from his President, Nelson Mandela, after winning the dramatic final for South Africa on Ellis Park in 1995. In another completely different way, by his actions, Pienaar also played a significant role in the prevention of rugby going to the rebel professional World Rugby Corporation in the same year.
Pienaar first came into the Springbok team in 1993 against France. He was made captain from the very start of his tests, a rare feat (only Basil Kenyon and Des van Jaarsveld had also done that for South Africa). Still, Pienaar did have a paltry total of experience, just 16 tests, when two years later, he was charged with the task of leading the Springboks into their first World Cup. Added to that was the pressure on him of not failing in a World Cup being played effectively in his new country. The whole of South Africa’s new ‘Rainbow Nation’ looked to Francois Pienaar and the coach Kitch Christie to bring home the gold.
And they certainly did. In an exultant moment for the South Africa nation, who were finding a new way forward, the win over New Zealand, by 15-12 in extra time, was massive lift for the new nation’s confidence. Given the years when South Africa had been scorned for its apartheid policies, what an image was created for the entire world to see when a young white man accepted the trophy from his black leader.
In that moment Francois Pienaar was guaranteed a lifetime’s recognition. He had played well in the tournament, he led his team superbly, had conveyed a confidence all the way through, to the whole country. Seconds after the final whistle he led his team to dipin prayers of gratitude, right in the centre-field at Ellis Park. In other words for the deeply religious country he did everything right.
Yet only months later he was embroiled in the greatest threat the amateur game of rugby had ever faced. The World Rugby Corporation had been formed to seek ways to change the structure of the world rugby scene and change it from its old amateur ways. The world’s top players were targeted with offers of money, contracted sums so large apparently, that they could not be refused. The WRC went hard at securing the South African players for a new world professional circuit. The WRC took the view that because they had won the World Cup South Africa must be the target to lead the new direction.
So the pressure went on to Francois Pienaar. He was offered huge sums to lead all of the other World Cup winners to the new monetary version of rugby. To be fair, leading All Blacks, Wallabies and British and Irish players were also being besieged by WRC and sign up. Pienaar though was the first to crack. He elected to stay with the counter-offer from Louis Luyt of the South African Rugby Union and with other collapses of confidence the strong bid by WRC failed. Had Pienaar gone with the new idea world rugby would have been vastly different. As it transpired the International Rugby Board sensing the groundswell and desires of modern attitudes within months, themselves, had changed the game from being all-amateur to being totally professional.
Francois Pienaar’s career at the top lasted one more year. He led the Springboks on the European tour in the first Springbok tour of the new era and in 1996 he took part in the first Tri Nations series with New Zealand and Australia. He international career ended when, still as skipper, he was carried off at Cape Town in the second test against the All Blacks.
He left the country soon after to become a player/coach at the prestigious Saracens Club in London.
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26 June 2015 (3 years ago)
Merton
Close to the mark so far Keith. Greetings from the sandpit!! Merton aka Fog